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Graham Bunn
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It's been a long time since I contributed an item upon the website so I delved into my cuttings and found something which fans may find of interest.

It has often crossed my mind that there must come a time when a singer realises that they can no longer hit that certain note and that the popularity is changing.
Singers can change a song to suite the voice for example Shirley Bassey has changed the end of the song Goldfinger as I guess That last note is difficult for her now.

But popularity is another thing to deal with,in an article given to Dick Tatham Ruby is asked had she ever been badly hurt?

Rubys reply......"I was doing a Summer Season at the Windmill Theatre owned by Jack Jay in Great Yarmouth

One night Jack and his wife Freda threw a party at their lovely house right on the seafront.
Most of the people there were from show business and I knew them well.Bernie kindly offered to look after the kids so I had come to the party on my own.
I was standing talking to Val Doonican when a group of people who were'nt in show business came up.They surrounded Val and started chatting away to him.I found myself edged out of the circle.
No-one came to talk to me.I felt terrible.I remember the days when I had people crowding round all the time.Maybe a man would not have minded so much.But any woman will know how I felt.

Vals wife Lynette resued me.Bless her.She took my arm chatting to me as she did and led me into the circle of people.That eased the situation.

Maybe it sounds silly but when I got back that night I had a darned good cry.

I guess the last sentence says it all.....Ruby was human and like us all wanted to be popular.........Thats why this website is so important and her poularity must be kept going by her fans thats why if you have a story similar to this post it it helps keep her memory alive.

Best Wishes
Graham

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Hello Graham,

It does my heart good to see such feeling coming from Ruby's fans. Thank you Graham, that sums up just how deeply her staunch fans feel for her and her memory, that is wonderful.

As for the actual incident that you posted, I remember it so well, I had to console her when she returned and it wasn't easy. There was another occasion when she needed a shoulder to cry on and that was when Norrie Paramor had a meeting with her. He tried so hard to disguize what he wanted to say. He was trying to tell her that her contract with E.M.I. was, as he put it ,"not terminating but rather on a loose arrangement whereby if she found a song that she wanted to record he would be pleased to go over the song with her and record it". Ruby instantly knew what he was trying to say and once again the tears flowed, but as we all know, oher record companies were anxious to sign her up and she came close to chart success once again, with 'Change Your Mind' with President Records and there was another which almost made it, with Philips/Fontana. Can anyone tell me which 'single' that was?.

Thanks again Graham.. Adios Amigos. Bernie.
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Post by MARTIN FOSTER »

Hi Graham,

Nice to see you on here again. I have missed you in your absence. I have never seen that article before. What a sad story about Ruby being edged out of the conversation and also Bernie's story re Norrie Paramour. They both remind me of that incident when Alma Cogan also hurt Ruby's feelings.

Bernie, is the song "Sooner or later"?

Martin.

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Hi Graham, nice to see you back on, you have been missed.

Bernie, this song could it be from The "Spinning Wheel"?
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My guess would be I Can't Get You Out of My Heart, as Ruby only made a couple of singles with Philips/Fontana.
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Hello Friends

Sorry for the delay in answering the replies to my question, I have been visiting the Highlands of Scotland and The Isle of Skye. On the 25th., tomorrow, I return to Spain.

Martin came up with the answer, it was 'Sooner Or Later'. As this was merely a question, I regret to say there is no gold star on offer, sorry about that. Well done anyway Martin.

Adios Amigos. Bernie.

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Hello friends,

Thanks for that Bernie and I will let you off for not giving me a gold star! :lol:

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